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Veteran Member |
I was wondering around on google and found these.
From Here ^I really like the way this view looks. Architects: John Vosmek Architects (Portland), kpff Consulting Engineers (Portland) Cost and Staging Projections: Hoffman Construction Company (Portland) Owner: City of Portland Phase I Projected Cost: $45,697,000 Phase II Projected Cost: $115,276,000 Total Projected Cost: $160,973,000 Does not look all that expensive. Dimensions: Left field foul pole: 312 ft.; left field power alley: 365 ft.; center field: 408 ft.; right field power alley: 360 ft.; right field foul pole: 340 ft.; backstop: 52 ft.; foul territory: small. The proposed Portland Baseball Park is a unique stadium, essentially new, but incorporating the historic concrete bowl of the existing Civic Stadium (originally built in 1926 by the Multnomah Athletic Club from a design by noted Portland architect A.E. Doyle). The bowl is outfitted with new chair seats, and new seating is added from the current bottom row at a shallow pitch down to the level of the new grass field. The existing concourse is demolished and replaced by a lower and much wider concourse appropriate for major league food and beverage service and other concessions. The new concourse slab ties the old bowl structure to a new super-structure supporting the intermediate deck of suites and luxury seats and the upper decks. The shape of the ballpark is changed from the old configuration to a more traditional baseball configuration by the orientation of the upper decks. The new steel structure overlays the old concrete colonnade at the street side, and the adjacent streets become expanded concourse areas and integrate the facility into the surrounding stadium entertainment district. Wide sky bridges connect the upper decks to elevated concourses above the streets. New seating is designed for left and center field, incorporating retail space and a year-round restaurant accessed from the adjacent street. Right field bleachers incorporate bullpens and have a grass picnic area adjacent. The proposed ballpark areas are based on a programmatic composite of several new ballparks. The footprint of the complex is comparable to the same new ballparks. The facility is designed for baseball first, but retractable seating in the left field wall provides the capability for football, soccer and other activities. The decision not to include a retractable roof reflects sensitivity toward the scale of the adjacent neighborhood and the city in general and the cost-effectiveness of the expense given the fact that fifteen current Major League cities have more rainfall during the season than Portland. A new light rail line has two stops adjacent to the ballpark and connects to major suburbs to the east and west of Portland. Construction has been planned in two phases. Phase I increases seating up to 30,000, and provides a first-rate community stadium capable of accommodating existing activities and new activities such as MLS or a new professional football league franchise. Phase I also provides a temporary home for a major league baseball team with the capability of Phase II expansion in one or two off-seasons. Phase II includes additional seating up to 42,000 and the areas and amenities appropriate for Major League Baseball. What ever happened to this idea? ----------------------------- "If you Build it they will come" MLB2PDX ----------------------------- |
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Veteran Member |
Also says it could be used for Professional football, It would actually look really good for an NFL stadium and I think looks just great for MLB. I has a little Safeco in it in the Bullpen area, some BOB in the centerfield area with the high wall, and some Fenway park with the smaller "Monster" in left field. I like it. It also looks a little like Minuet maid park in right field.
----------------------------- "If you Build it they will come" MLB2PDX ----------------------------- |
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OSC Record Holder |
Hi Jon,
I moved this into the forum where it's more applicable... These were some of the very first design ideas by John Vosmek. If you look at the aerial shot, the ballpark would actually cover the MAX line. What's the issue with this design... I'd refer to John on this as he's the obvious expert, but I do know that one issue with the design is that you have a situation where your interim facility has to be demolished a great deal to construct what you see here. The PGE Park Phase II design that has been discussed currently moves the ballpark roughly a block west. This would allow development in phases while play was still allowed to occur in PGE Park. The second phase would be done in a accelerated fashion in the off-season to complete the construction. |
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Looks nice and it is cheap, but I would miss the view from the street as you go by.
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OSC Record Holder |
It's "cheap" because this would have been what would have occured if Civic Stadium became an MLB stadium as opposed to PGE Park for minor league play.
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MVP Member |
Interesting find. This was obviously done some time ago, but I've never seen it. Anyone ever remember seeing this? Sweet numbers. Creative plan with a lot of thaught put into it. Obviously it was eventually deemed unworkable which is a shame. Just from looking at the pictures, my guess is no parking. I was looking for those elaborate concourses to lead to some kind of parking structure. Any other thaughts?
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MVP Member |
quote: Wow! We spent 35m to make Civic Stadium into a minor league park, and for only 10m more we could be sitting in phase I of a new MLB park? talk about 20-20 hindsight. |
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Volunteer Coordinator MVP Member |
This was the alternative plan when they were figuring out what to do with Civic Stadium five years ago. I think Lynn Lashbrook was somehow involved as well.
It's easy to play "what if's" with this. I was actually pretty upset at the time when they went with the PFE gang, but in hindsight I think we'll be much better off with a stadium at USPS or Blanchard. |
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MVP Member |
quote: As far as a higher quality stadium, absolutely. As far as return on investment, not so much. |
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Member |
I think it looks great. It is a BIG bonus if we have a stadium that could house an NFL franchise down the road. One question: Is a roof being considered at all? It seems like there would be enough left over to cover the place, and I definitely think it would be worth it.
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