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Read the entire article here on the KC Star website
Others eye KC's prizes Cities would line up to woo Chiefs, Royals By RANDY COVITZ The KC Star The Kansas City StarImagine the Portland Royals. Or the Charlotte Royals. What about the Los Angeles Chiefs? Or Anaheim Chiefs? Those are among the cities that have their eyes on Kansas City's major-league teams if Jackson County voters do not approve an April 4 sales-tax measure that would help fund renovations at the Truman Sports Complex. Without the improvements at Arrowhead and Kauffman stadiums, the county is expected to default on the leases in 2007, freeing the Royals and Chiefs to leave town. Neither the Royals nor the Chiefs have threatened to move from the Kansas City area, but cities such as Charlotte; San Antonio; Las Vegas; Portland, Ore.; and Norfolk, Va., are eager to bring major-league baseball to their communities. And outgoing NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue last week reiterated his desire to place a team in Los Angeles by the end of the decade. The NFL, in concert with an owner, would build a new stadium on either the site of the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum or adjacent to Anaheim's major-league baseball park, Angel Stadium. So in a mirror image of how Kansas City is monitoring distressed arena situations in the NBA and NHL in hopes of discreetly attracting a basketball or hockey team to the Sprint Center when it opens in 2007, other cities are whispering about the availability of the Royals and Chiefs for new stadiums they have on their drawing boards. Portland and Norfolk are so serious about getting a baseball team that they commissioned HOK Sport of Kansas City to design proposed stadiums when they tried attracting the Montreal Expos, who moved to Washington, D.C., in 2005. San Antonio, Portland and Norfolk have expressed interest in the Florida Marlins, who have received permission from Major League Baseball to relocate if the Marlins are unable to strike a new stadium deal in south Florida, and San Antonio appears to have the inside track. San Antonio is proposing a $300 million open-air stadium that would include $200 million in public funding if voters extend a current hotel tax that helped build the $200 million AT&T Center. Meanwhile, Portland and Norfolk even have active organizations dedicated to bringing a big-league team to their communities, much as NHL21 is determined to bring major-league hockey to Kansas City. "We have always said we are not out to steal any other city's team, and we don't wish ill for the Royals or anyone else," said Steve Kanter, president of the Portland Baseball Group. "But, of course, we would like to be a major-league baseball city and hope to be in position to be a solution if somebody can't get it fixed in their market and has to move. "We feel this is the window of opportunity for us." Kevin Gray, president of the Greater Kansas City Sports Commission, is keenly aware other cities are ready to pounce on the Royals or the Chiefs. "The reality is these two Kansas City treasures will be able to leave at the end of the year, and other cities will want to take them from us," Gray said. "If we lose the teams, we lose a lot more than major-league sports and our pride. Who will make up for the lost millions of dollars in tax revenue when the teams leave for better stadiums in other cities?" Going after baseball The Portland/Vancouver, Wash., area, with a metropolitan population of about 2.3 million, is the largest community in the country with just one major-league team, the Portland Trail Blazers of the NBA. Norfolk, which encompasses Virginia Beach, Hampton and Newport News for a metropolitan population of 1.6 million, matches Las Vegas as the largest markets without any major-league franchises. "Baseball is the best economic model for our area," said Will Somerindyke Jr., CEO of The Norfolk Baseball Co. "Any opportunity that comes up, if we have any realistic chance, we're definitely going to pursue it." Two years ago, HOK designed a $303 million stadium with a 35,000-to-38,000-seat capacity, including 60 to 70 suites for Norfolk. The site is on city-owned property on the Elizabeth River, next to Harbor Park, the community's Class AAA baseball stadium that could be expanded to 18,000 seats on an interim basis. The stadium would be funded primarily through legislation renewed in the last general assembly that captures state taxes derived from the ballpark to pay off stadium debt; and through a hotel and restaurant tax created in 1998 that has accumulated $5 million annually and placed it in escrow. This, of course, does not include revenues from naming rights, suites, concessions and parking. Portland, thanks to a bill approved by the Oregon legislature, already has a way to secure $150 million worth of stadium funding in the form of income-tax collections from home and visiting players and top management salaries. Until a new stadium is built, Portland also has a suitable interim facility with its Class AAA stadium, PGE Park, which recently underwent $40 million of renovations, seats 19,000 and with some outfield bleachers could accommodate nearly 25,000. PGE Park is sold out for a Friday exhibition game between the Seattle Mariners and the Portland Beavers, who are the San Diego Padres' top farm club. "Baseball has a long tradition in Portland. We were one of the original members of the Pacific Coast League," said Drew Mahalic, chief executive officer of the Oregon Sports Authority, referring to former league members Los Angeles, San Francisco, Oakland, San Diego and Seattle. "We're probably the last bastion of the Pacific Coast League that doesn't have a major-league baseball franchise. "We've taken notice of what's going on in Kansas City." Charlotte, which just prevailed over Kansas City and three other communities in attracting the NASCAR Hall of Fame, plans on building a new stadium for its Class AAA team downtown near the Hall of Fame. But Jerry Reese, a prominent attorney who specializes in commercial real estate, is spearheading an attempt to build a privately financed 38,000-seat, retractable-roof stadium that could not only house a major-league team but also be host to Atlantic Coast Conference and NCAA regionals as well as Final Fours. Some would say Charlotte, with a metropolitan population of 1.6 million, has enough on its plate with the NFL's Carolina Panthers, NBA's Charlotte Bobcats, three Nextel Cup events at Lowe's Motor Speedway and college basketball, but the city's Chamber of Commerce estimates its booming area will have 2.2 million by 2015. And the area has a passion for baseball. The Carolinas boast 13 minor-league clubs in organized baseball. "Charlotte has unlimited potential," Reese said. "You don't have a huge city, but North Carolina is the 11th-largest state in population, and you've got a lot of smaller towns and 7 million people within 100 miles of Charlotte." Seeking an NFL team San Antonio auditioned as an NFL city by housing the New Orleans Saints last season when the Louisiana Superdome and Saints training facility were damaged by Hurricane Katrina. Although the Saints averaged 62,665 for three regular-season games at the Alamodome, Tagliabue made it clear the NFL was not in interested in bringing the Saints back to San Antonio or putting an expansion team in the nation's 37th television market, saying, "We're going to be moving up in market size." That, of course, meant Los Angeles, the nation's second-largest television market, which has been without an NFL franchise since both the Raiders and Rams left following the 1994 season. Last November, Tagliabue stood on the steps of Los Angeles City Hall between meetings with the mayors of Los Angeles and Anaheim and announced a preliminary agreement on terms to bring a team back to the Coliseum, although he didn't rule out a team playing in Anaheim. A progress report on Los Angeles will be discussed at this week's NFL owners meeting in Orlando, Fla., and Tagliabue said last week that he plans to visit Los Angeles next month in hopes of reaching a decision on where to build the stadium. "With the television (contract) and collective-bargaining agreement behind us, getting a team or teams back into the Los Angeles area rises right to the top of the list," Tagliabue said. To that end, the NFL is down to the final details on lease negotiations with both the officials of the Coliseum, an 83-year-old structure on city-owned land that would be razed and rebuilt; and the Anaheim site. The league would build a luxurious $600 million stadium. Then the NFL would sell the facility "” with all of the lucrative revenue streams, including suites that go for $300,000 "” to an owner. Until a new stadium is built in Los Angeles or Anaheim, a team could play in the 102,000-seat Rose Bowl on an interim basis. The Chiefs would not be the only candidate to move to Los Angeles. The San Diego Chargers, who spent their inaugural 1960 season in Los Angeles, are unhappy with antiquated, 37-year-old Qualcomm Stadium and have been frustrated in attempts to get a new facility built. Some believe Saints owner Tom Benson, who had one foot out the door before Hurricane Katrina struck, eventually will move his franchise if New Orleans is unable to support the club adequately. Those in Los Angeles aren't particular whether it's the Chiefs, Chargers or an expansion club. "When you don't have a team," said Pat Lynch, general manager of the Coliseum, "any team will do. Just give us a good ownership group and things should be OK." |
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And the campaign continues in KC.
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I hate to break this to the quorum, and the campaign, but an upcoming article for The Hardball Times will be entitled, "Are There Really Any Viable Relocation Options At This Time?" |
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The Saints games in SA were full of giveaways, I mean full of them. Only the ATL game had the lowest amount of giveaways. The last game against Detroit had somewhere between 20,000 and 30,000 giveaways. Sorry, but that's not proving your worth.
www.saintsreport.com |
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Besides Portland? No. But if you definition of "viable" includes political will, then the answer is no, nobody. But here's the rub. If MLB was THAT interested in getting stadiums built in the remaining cities that need one, they could always pretend to get serious about New Jersey. Heck, maybe Steinbrenner and Wilpon would play along (as long as doesn't become a reality) since more revenue for those markets will allow them to write smaller revenue sharing checks to Loria, Glass, etc. each year. |
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The last game had 18,000 donated seats. Mainly because it was a Christmas eve game and a game with the Saints and Lions, two of the worst teams in the NFL. But who am I to forget about the San Antonio season ticket base and the full year of ticket campaigns the Saints put on in San Antonio. Oh wait, all San Antonio did was sell over 100,000 tickets in two weeks for a team we had no connection to. What's funny is how New Orleans had to have local companies buy all remaining tickets to Saints games in order to avoid the blackout. I see you forgot to mention that. |
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I don't care if LA does try to go after the Chiefs. The Chiefs won't move and I'm willing to put $$ on that. Lamar Hunt, who owns the Chiefs, has been extremely loyal to KC. I don't see that changing. What I do see changing possibly is the amount of $$ he will continue to invest in MLS. If anyone should be worried, it should be MLS fans, because Lamar Hunt has really contributed a lot to MLS. And something tells me that the Royals won't move either. If the Royals get in a really bad bind, I can see Lamar Hunt stepping in as the new owner of the Royals. And that Royals team owned by him would make some noise in the MLB playoffs, IMO. Actually caring about my behavior now , trying to be more Christian than in the past. In ZAX, to all my Lambda Chi brothers out there in the Pacific Northwest. |
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Well, neither the Chiefs nor Royals are going anytime soon. The vote yesterday essentially locked them into new medium-term leases.
So it's now between the Marlins, Athletics and the Twins. Right now, I say it's 50/50 on the Marlins but if Loria's still owner immediately that becomes 80/20, unless the league stops him from moving again. The Athletics don't really want to leave California barring Armageddon. Which leads us to the Twins...my gut feeling still says they'll be sold and moved elsewhere. _____________________________________ Go where you are wanted! |
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Didn't the Twins lock down recently too? And it looks more and more like the A's will stay put...as will the Marlins (Hialeah). KC is set, and Tampa is stuck.
"Baseball in Portland is an economic success story waiting to happen."-Governor Ted Kulongoski, from his letter to Bud Selig |
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I hope they ALL stay put (well, maybe not the A's - I'm still not convinced the Bay is a consistent two-team market), and Portland and San Antonio get the next two expansion teams to balance out the AL. We need to keep working to make ourselves presentable if that becomes the only alternative, and keep banging on baseball's door until they let us in! Persistence WILL pay off.
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Here's the latest on the Twins situation: http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/news/local/14256956.htm As you can see, it is by no means a slam dunk, but I think they will be done this year (as in, locked in place for 20-30 years). |
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I sure hope your right.. I have been very discouraged lately |
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BC: how is Portland going to be "presentable" without an ownership group in place? I figure our chances for expansion are less than our chances at landing the Marlins. |
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