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Volunteer Coordinator MVP Member |
Rainouts and the need for retractable
roof stadiums By The Cactus Leaguer May 13, 2006 There has been a lot of talk
recently in Portlanders went through this
exercise during the Expos derby and I'd say the consensus was that a
retractable roof would be aesthetically unappealing and, despite Portland's
reputation for rain, it would be an unnecessary expense (Portland actually has
less rain than most MLB cities during baseball season and the minor league team
has less than one rainout per year).
Current estimates set the cost of a retractable roof at somewhere
between $100 million to $150 million. We have pored
through the average rainfall statistics in here many times before, but I
thought it would be more interesting to test Rainouts/rain shortened
games by month: April – 11 rainouts, 3 rain
shortened games May – 3 rainouts, 2 rain
shortened games June – 3 rainouts, 2 rain
shortened games July – 1 rainout, 3 rain shortened games August – 7 rainouts, 1 rain
shortened games September – 1 rainout Total – 26 rainouts, 11 rain
shortened games Rainouts/rain shortened
games by team: It was also interesting to
note that for the NL West and AL West teams, the only rainout issues were as
follows: first, the Overall, the 23 teams without
domes or retractable roofs had 26 rainouts and 11 rain shortened games. As you can see, Now beyond the fact that this
only represents a single season, there are other potential flaws in drawing
conclusions from this. First of all, we're excluding
the cities that already have domed stadiums.
But, with the exception of the Diamondbacks, one could infer that the
rainouts would not be drastically different than nearby locales without domes
(Seattle/Portland, Houston/Dallas or Second, we're ignoring the
"threat of rain" effect that could hurt attendance, particularly attendance for
people who need to plan ahead or make a long journey to the game. Fair enough.
We could try to draw similar conclusions from looking at other nearby
cities, but such an analysis would be more difficult to quantify. Third, we're ignoring the
fact that in In the case of the Twins,
this issue is limited to the very early part of the season. With the Marlins it's more complicated. Most summer days in I should say that I have
never sat at a late afternoon game in Dolphins Stadium in August, but friends
of mine have, and they tell me that, while it is not an enjoyable experience,
the annoyances are more due to the stadium itself rather than the heat/humidity
issues. I have gone to games at Comerica
and Jacobs Field in early April, and I still had a good time (it is baseball,
after all), but I had to dress like I was going to a football game in order to
enjoy it properly. So do the Marlins and Twins
"need" retractable roof stadiums? Judging from the standpoint of rainouts, the
answer appears to be no. But other
issues conspire to make retractable roofs a factor to help drive up attendance
levels. One thing that could help to
defray the expense of a retractable roof would be the ability to use the
facility for the other events. The
Arizona Cardinals new stadium is taking this approach by utilizing a "rolling
turf" which gives the facility more flexibility for all kinds of conventions
and other events. The Indianapolis Colts
will be taking a similar approach as well so that they can lure big events such
as the Final Four. This approach has not
yet been utilized for a baseball-centric stadium which has unique field
dimensions, a pitcher's mound, and specially configured seating to make a
baseball-centric multipurpose retractable roof facility more complicated. |
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Volunteer Coordinator MVP Member |
2005 Rainouts/rain shortened games (per scan of Yahoo Sports boxscores):
April 12th – Chicago (Cubs) April 19th – San Diego (shortened to 7 innings) April 22nd – Chicago (Cubs) April 23rd – Detroit April 24th – Detroit April 25th – St. Louis April 26th – Pittsburgh April 26th – Cleveland April 27th – Boston April 27th – Colorado April 28th – Colorado (doubleheader) April 30th – Washington DC (shortened to 8 innings) April 30th – Philadelphia (shortened to 8 innings) May 7th – Boston May 11th – St. Louis (shortened to 5 innings) May 12th – Kansas City (shortened to 7 innings) May 13th – Detroit May 28th – Texas June 3rd – Philadelphia June 3rd – New York (Mets) June 27th – Florida (shortened to 8 innings) June 29th – Baltimore June 30th – Cincinnati (shortened to 7 innings) July 3rd – Kansas City (shortened to 6 innings) July 6th – Atlanta July 7th – Baltimore (shortened to 6 innings) July 18th – Cleveland (shortened to 5 innings) August 11th – Florida (shortened to 7 innings) August 12th – Kansas City August 13th – Kansas City August 14th – Boston August 16th – Philadelphia August 29th – Pittsburgh August 29th – Atlanta August 30th – Cleveland September 26th – Boston |
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MVP Member |
Wow! I never thought I could learn so much about rainouts in one read. Nice research.
Obviously there is no easy answer on cost effectiveness of roofed stadiums or there wouldn't be so much on going debate to the issue. Portland may qualify for a unique answer. Most of our rain is in the form of light drizzle. Usually not enough to stop the action on the field. The overlooked issue not addressed in these statistics is how Portland's unique type of rain would effect attendance. The guys on the field will play through drizzle but a percentage of fans wont want to come to sit in those wet seats for nine innings. Now picture PGE Park where the roof overhang is extended to shelter all the seats. This would be an open air stadium where all the fans would stay dry while the game goes on. I don't believe any MLB stadium has a total roof overhang. It would be a unique Portland feature. |
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Senior Member |
To be honest, I don't think a roof should be needed in Portland. Think about the added costs again. Though it seems to be the craze to have roofs these days, I think an open stadium would be nice. I'm sure it would be a unique feature, but it isn't needed.
Like Roy said, Portland rain is light drizzle. If you look at the rainout charts, the majority of rainouts were in the Central/Midwest part of the country. Now having said all that, there's no way a fully closed dome will be made. Also, it's really up in the air when you talk about overall enjoyment factor and the like. If you ditch the idea of a roof, you save money for the other features of the park. Don't get me wrong, I like retractable roof stadiums, don't hate them at all, it's just that I think there has to be a certain uniqueness in Portland's ballpark and I don't seem to be the one to think that a roof is the answer. Personally, I prefer bizarre field dimensions. |
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MVP Member |
The retractable roof is important in those Midwest cities where cloud burst rains are heavy enough to stop the action on the field. Our rain while steady usually doesn't come down hard enough to trigger a rain delay. It would not be cost effective for Portland to invest the $100 million expense in a retractable roof exclusively to benefit stadium fans. That being said, all open air stadiums have some sort of overhang protecting a percentage of seats from the rain. I would think it to be very cost effective to simply extend that overhang to protect all fans from Portland's light drizzle as the game goes on.
That small investment would pay for itself in increased attendance while giving Portland a unique open air stadium feature. |
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